4.5 I have only used the new conditioner once, but I was automatically more impressed with it than with the conditioning bar. I LOVE the shampoo bars, but the conditioner bars have never gone on very well--seems like I was rubbing it a long time on my hair without much conditioner being applied. However, the newest conditioner, with the same wonderful scents, applies much more thoroughly and evenly. Still not completely smooth and silky feel, but very nice. Love the scents! I will use the shampoo bar and this new liquid conditioner!